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@ 2008-09-04 23:27:00
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John McCain at the RNC
A great speech, poorly executed. John McCain is just not comfortable speaking before a large crowd. He doesn't know from delivery, and those awkward, too-quick smiles make him look disingenuous. I did like parts of the speech, such as when he talked about how the Republican party lost the confidence of the American people, and when he talked about how he hates war because he's seen it firsthand, but overall the speech was choppy and low energy. (It also didn't help whenever they cut away to delegates with misspelled signs like "MAVRICK." Maybe school vouchers will help!)

In the end, the Democratic National Convention belonged to their presidential candidate, Barack Obama, but the Republican National Convention belonged to their vice presidential candidate, Sarah Palin. It's funny to think that just a week ago I was wondering if history would view her selection as the end of the McCain ticket, at least with the Republican base, when in fact she might be what saves it.

You know, maybe this makes me crazy, but a lot has been made of Palin being an Alaskan beauty pageant finalist, yet the one at the RNC who really cranks my erector set is Cindy McCain. Yes, I know she's 54, and I'm well aware that she's married, but I would totally go crazy on her!

Anyway, now that the conventions are over, it's back to business as usual. It's sixty days to the general election, and as we know, that's plenty of time for either side to screw up big time and lose whatever post-convention bumps they gained.




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[info]marlowe1
2008-09-05 03:57 am UTC (link)
I still found Palin to be the Scary Robot Woman. There was nothing in her speech that had any substance and it was all the same divisive attacks. Beyond that she seems more like a type than a person "Beauty Queen Gets Old and Nastier"

I really think that the Republicans blew it with her and once their euphoria wears off, her speech will be like Buchanan's in 1992, the one that scared America away from Republicans for almost a decade.

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[info]admnaismith
2008-09-05 03:11 pm UTC (link)

To be fair to Buchanan, according to Molly Ivins that speech sounded better in the original German.

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[info]stephen_dedman
2008-09-05 11:00 am UTC (link)
(It also didn't help whenever they cut away to delegates with misspelled signs like "MAVRICK." Maybe school vouchers will help!)

Not if the "STUDENT'S FOR MCCAIN" pens are any indication, they won't.

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 01:17 pm UTC (link)
Oh god.

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[info]godofchickens
2008-09-05 12:11 pm UTC (link)
Cindy McCain? Really?




Really?

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[info]goodkingjay3
2008-09-05 01:13 pm UTC (link)
That was my reaction! She looks like Cruella Deville.

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 01:18 pm UTC (link)
Crazy on her!

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[info]admnaismith
2008-09-05 03:12 pm UTC (link)
Old Ice-Crotch, they call her in Arizona.

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 03:14 pm UTC (link)
They call me the Ice Breaker!

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[info]barthanderson
2008-09-05 01:28 pm UTC (link)
>>I would totally go crazy on her!

Someone needs his meds tweaked.

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re
(Anonymous)
2008-09-05 01:41 pm UTC (link)
Sounds like he needs *something* tweaked, but it ain't his meds!

D. Chapman

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 01:56 pm UTC (link)
Bring her to me!

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[info]madpoet7
2008-09-05 01:46 pm UTC (link)
Sounds like you need an Emergency Sexy Pillow Fight stat to cure this Cindy McCain thing. Too bad I'm not coming to NYC in the foreseeable future. Come on ladies of NYC, save Nick (before it's too late.)

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 01:57 pm UTC (link)
I wonder if Cindy McCain is good at pillow fighting!

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[info]madpoet7
2008-09-05 03:02 pm UTC (link)
The whole point of the emergency pillow fight is to keep you from thinking about Cindy McCain, not to get you to think about pillow fighting her...aaarrrgghhh!

ps. I wonder if Heart knows that their song Barracuda is being used as Sarah "Barracuda" Palin's theme song.

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 03:07 pm UTC (link)
They do indeed and have sent a cease and desist letter: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/05/mccain-palin-embrace-barracuda/

I'm all for an emergency Sexy Pillow Fight! Bring it on!

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[info]scottedelman
2008-09-05 02:17 pm UTC (link)
All I think when I look at Cindy McCain is, so, this is the woman he left his first wife for after she was disfigured in a car crash ...

Family values, indeed!

In any case, I can't look at her without thinking of what their entire relationship says about McCain's character. If they want us to give him credit for his years as a P.O.W., they have to allow us to give him a demerit for that!

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 02:22 pm UTC (link)
I don't know, I get uncomfortable when we talk about politicians' personal lives, especially divorce, since I'm divorced myself. I try to stick to policy debates.

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[info]scottedelman
2008-09-05 02:56 pm UTC (link)
But when the Republicans want to say that allowing gays to marry will destroy the institution of marriage, isn't it fair to point out that many of the members of the Republican leadership has gotten divorced?

I guess I look at it the same way as I do the issue of Palin's daughter, who was able to make the choice that Palin wants to take away from the rest of us. To me, that opens the door to the personal.

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 03:02 pm UTC (link)
No, because that's allowing the Republicans to set the terms of the debate. Defending gay marriage by saying divorce exists among heterosexual marriages won't change anything. Defending gay marriage by saying the government doesn't have the right to decide which consenting adult couple can get married and which can't just might.

Palin's daughter's pregnancy raises some issues about Palin's support of abstinence-only programs in schools and her anti-choice stance. Pointing out policy hypocrisy is not only fine, it's essential. I simply don't want to hear that a pregnant daughter means Palin is necessarily a bad mother. That's Bill O'Reilly territory!

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[info]scottedelman
2008-09-06 09:11 pm UTC (link)
I'm afraid that if we play nice, the Republicans win. I side with what [info]infinitydog just had to say:

Two weeks ago, 67% of Americans had never heard of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

Yesterday, according to a Rasmussen Reports policy poll, following Palin's disgraceful, lie-packed speech at the RNC, she earned a 58% approval rating from surveyed voters. That's a higher approval rating than either McCain or Obama (both scored 57%) or Biden (48%).

Sixty percent of those queried in a SurveyUSA poll gave Palin an "A" for her convention speech. Fifty-five percent called her an "asset" to McCain. And that same poll showed McCain edging past Obama, 48% to 45%.

Learn the lesson, Democrats: Going negative works. Get ugly. Lie shamelessly. Because in politics, it's not the truth that matters, or who has the best ideas, it's all about framing the story, whether it's true or not.

Now stop playing nice, stop bringing knives to gunfights, get out there, and destroy those fascist, Dominionist, corporatist thugs. Show them no quarter, because I guarantee you will receive none from them.


If being nice means that we lose the Supreme Court, I don't want to be nice.

Edited at 2008-09-06 09:12 pm UTC

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[info]samrrose
2008-09-05 03:03 pm UTC (link)
This is how I understand it so I'm open to the fact I may have misinterpreted something. When he came back from being a POW she had already been in her accident. Both of them weren't doing well. He had been tortured and she had been seriously hurt in her accident. Both of them were changed because of their ordeals. They couldn't make it work when he came back. They separated because they were different people now. He went to DC. A few years (I want to say about two) he met his current wife. Until he met Cindy he wasn't seeking divorce, just was separated (that may have something to do with his career because Republicans are more likely to vote for someone that is married, even if they are separated). This is my understanding.

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 03:12 pm UTC (link)
Not entirely accurate. His first wife, Carol, claims McCain left her due basically to a mid-life crisis (she said, "My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25.") and he married Cindy a month after the divorce, after allegedly having pursued her since 1979, when he was still married to Carol.

I think he handled the situation poorly, but I don't consider it a political issue.

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[info]samrrose
2008-09-05 03:13 pm UTC (link)
Agreed.

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[info]samrrose
2008-09-05 03:21 pm UTC (link)
This has nothing to do with anything, but am I wrong or does that article say his first wife was married to one of his classmate and they had two kids when she took up with McCain? Nothing to do with politics, but a little juicy. Might be part of the reason she doesn't completely hate him.

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[info]admnaismith
2008-09-05 03:10 pm UTC (link)
http://news.yahoo.com/story//nm/20080831/wl_nm/russia_putin_tiger_dc_1

This is what happens when the Americans brag about the VP candidate being able to clean and dress a moose.

Vladimir Pooty-Poot responds by wrassling a Siberian tiger. Wow, what a manly studmuffin!

Obama's handlers are already arguing over whether he'll have to take on a grizzly bear or a gator, depending on whether he wants to make an impression in Florida or in the surprisingly close Big Sky states.

Rumors abound that Kim Il Jong intends to unfold into a giant robot and take on Godzilla, while in Venezuela, "Uncle Huggy" Chavez vows that he will kill the dreaded Chupacabra with his own hands.

Keep this up and we'll have to amend the Constitution to let Arnold Schwarzenegger run after all. Only then will America be prepared for the rise of the machines.

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 03:15 pm UTC (link)
Where is Jet Jaguar when we need him?

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[info]garyfrank
2008-09-05 04:16 pm UTC (link)
If John McCain is the great uniter, reaching out to any "patriot" on either side of the aisle, why did he sic his attack "barracuda" on the democrats? He said in his speech he wanted a new America that wasn't politically divided, yet Ms. Barracuda and a number of other speakers (if not all of them) made sure everyone knew the Democrats were wrong and made sure the hate, anger and animosity were in full force. That's not very uniting.

As far as Cindy McCain, I understand the "looking hot" bit, but she looks more terminator or borg than actual human so I'd be careful how close you get to her.

Interesting articles in the NY Times and the Washington Post on how it was the old mcCain, not this new far right version that should've been president. But after Bush destroyed him by bringing up his African daughter as the result of an affair, that was the end of his 2000 bid. And what did John do after that, after Bush dragged his family through politics? He turned around and supported the man! Wow. Now that's integrity!


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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 04:37 pm UTC (link)
His daughter is Bangladeshi, not African.

Also, convention rhetoric is usually fiery from the speakers. We saw much the same at the Democrat's convention.

The point about McCain supporting Bush in both 2000 and 2004 is spot on. He carried water for the wrong guy, and his career may suffer this year because of it.

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[info]burger_eater
2008-09-05 04:41 pm UTC (link)
You just want to muss up her $300,000 outfit!

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 04:47 pm UTC (link)
Oops, better be careful not to tear it!

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Palin
(Anonymous)
2008-09-05 06:42 pm UTC (link)
This article is pretty good, and sums up my feelings:
http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/the-mirrored-ceiling/?em

I was pretty shocked by everyone's response to her speech. It was clearly written for her, and not genuine.

-langan!

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 06:55 pm UTC (link)
Well, all politicians use speech writers, but what rubs me the wrong way is how there seems to be this undertone of condescension -- "Didn't she do great? And the Teleprompter even broke!" -- as if none of the Republican talking heads expected a woman to be able to pull off a speech without help.

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[info]possumqueen
2008-09-05 07:04 pm UTC (link)
Actually, I was surprised and impressed by Cindy McCain's record of humanitarian service around the world -- I'd known nothing of it before the convention! To my shame and chagrin, I'd written her off as a kind of political Stepford wife. Uh-uh. Heck, she should be running for office soon instead of her husband! She's not the greatest speechmaker in the world, but she has spoken with actions instead of rhetoric. I can't help but respect that deeply. In anyone.

Their daughter from India is adopted, mainly because of Cindy, who found her in one of Mother Teresa's orphanages. Look, I have a daughter from the Philippines. Only real adoptive parents understand that calling, and how that kind of surrogate love blossoms and grows. It is profound.

I dunno, Nick, what gets you hot: the body, the mind, or the character?

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-05 07:14 pm UTC (link)
Oh, it's a purely superficial attraction, I assure you.

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[info]possumqueen
2008-09-05 07:25 pm UTC (link)
Hah!! I do appreciate your honesty and candor, as always!

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[info]ktempest
2008-09-05 11:20 pm UTC (link)
Cindy. McCain.

I just really can't ever be your friend again.

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[info]nick_kaufmann
2008-09-06 02:23 am UTC (link)
Any excuse will do. ;-)

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